jetric
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Post by jetric on Nov 12, 2016 12:41:00 GMT -5
Hi All, About two months ago i was contacted by a guy in Australia who asked me if it was possable to run a Rolls-Royce Pegasus outside of the airframe on a test stand and i replied to him that yes it was possable he then asked if i would do all the work for him if he paid me for the work and the flights to come to Australia from the UK and obviously i agreed ( Who would'nt !! ). The guy had bought the engine from james everett ( Everett Aero ) and had all of the paperwork with it regarding its life it had been in storage for the past ten years all bagged up correctly and when i inspected the engine there was no corrosion anywhere so i knew we had a fairly good chance of getting it running, He also bought from james the Lucas CR201 APU engine that is used to spin up the main engine i had no worries about the APU when i saw it as it was one that i had owned and run then i sold it to james everett for a RR Gnome he had. I spent about a week in the UK before flying to Australia making the electronic control box up with all of the relevant gauges and switches and wiring loom whilst i was doing this the guy in Australia was getting a suitable fuel tank and a boat type throttle control lever before i flew over. When i got to Australia the guy had put me up in a local appartment in Ballarat for the week which was only a couple of miles from the guys house where the engine was and he had told me that on the test day of the engine he had permission to take the engine to the local airfield to run it. After spending three days working on the engine fitting the APU, Fuel connections, Throttle lever, Wiring loom, Filling oil tank, ect, ect, we took the engine to the airfield to test run it and everything worked perfectly!! As far as i know this is the only privately owned RR Pegasus engine that is running outside of the airframe! Videos and pictures below, In the videos i am the one with the white baseball cap on. Richard Staveley.
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Post by racket on Nov 12, 2016 16:13:51 GMT -5
Hi Richard
Now that was an interesting "holiday" in Oz for you ;-)
She's a big lump of a girl , very enjoyable vids .
What are they going to use her for ??
Cheers John
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Post by Johansson on Nov 12, 2016 16:41:12 GMT -5
I wish I could afford having you come over here and sort my Viper out.
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Post by jetric on Nov 12, 2016 21:36:44 GMT -5
Hi Richard Now that was an interesting "holiday" in Oz for you ;-) She's a big lump of a girl , very enjoyable vids . What are they going to use her for ?? Cheers John Hi John, The guy has a two seater Harrier airframe that he is refurbishing and the engine is going to be fitted into it for ground taxi runs at airshows, I might get a chance to go back to his next year when he has fitted the engine in the airframe as it will need checking over and testing again, Are you far from Balarat? Rich.
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Post by jetric on Nov 12, 2016 21:58:50 GMT -5
I wish I could afford having you come over here and sort my Viper out. I have quite a lot of experience on the Viper they are a nice engine as long as you can get a suitable starter motor for them!! The Viper 203 that was used as a takeoff boost engine in the Avro shackleton had a very nice starter motor mounted on the front of the engine with its own epicyclic reduction gearbox and one way freewheel clutch all in one unit needless to say they are like hens teeth and rocking horse poo to get hold of one now!!! Here's a video of one on my engine i used to own; And here's a picture of the unit; Rich.
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Post by jetric on Nov 12, 2016 22:14:40 GMT -5
I wish I could afford having you come over here and sort my Viper out. I have just noticed you have got the Viper 301 the starter motor is a different unit on that series of Viper as it is mounted underneath the engine. My pal has got three of the correct starter motors for that engine if you where struggling to get hold of one, picture below; Richard.
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Post by Johansson on Nov 13, 2016 4:44:47 GMT -5
I have just noticed you have got the Viper 301 the starter motor is a different unit on that series of Viper as it is mounted underneath the engine. My pal has got three of the correct starter motors for that engine if you where struggling to get hold of one, picture below; Richard. Is your pal the one who runs the Jetenginetrader homepage? I´ve seen some of the 301 starters there but the 2000UKP pricetag has kept me from buying one.
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Post by jetric on Nov 13, 2016 8:52:19 GMT -5
Is your pal the one who runs the Jetenginetrader homepage? I´ve seen some of the 301 starters there but the 2000UKP pricetag has kept me from buying one. You will need a starter motor or a engine capable of producing a minimum of 10hp at 3450rpm the starter motor on my Viper 203 that is on the video drew an initial current of nearly 1000amps at 24v dropping down to a steady 500amps at 24v when it was at 3000rpm. It is quite usual on the commercial engines for the starter motor to cost more than the engine especially on the british engines because the starter motor is classed as part of the airframe so they always get removed this is why the russian engines are better because they class the starter as part of the engine so you will always get a starter motor on the surplus russian engines. Rich.
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Post by Johansson on Nov 13, 2016 9:27:18 GMT -5
Is your pal the one who runs the Jetenginetrader homepage? I´ve seen some of the 301 starters there but the 2000UKP pricetag has kept me from buying one. You will need a starter motor or a engine capable of producing a minimum of 10hp at 3450rpm the starter motor on my Viper 203 that is on the video drew an initial current of nearly 1000amps at 24v dropping down to a steady 500amps at 24v when it was at 3000rpm. It is quite usual on the commercial engines for the starter motor to cost more than the engine especially on the british engines because the starter motor is classed as part of the airframe so they always get removed this is why the russian engines are better because they class the starter as part of the engine so you will always get a starter motor on the surplus russian engines. Rich. Thanks for the numbers, now I know what to look for. Sorry for hijacking your thread about the Pegasus.
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Post by racket on Nov 14, 2016 2:37:13 GMT -5
Hi Richard
it'll make a very interesting show piece .
Unfortunately I'm >1,000 kilometres from Ballarat :-(
Cheers John
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