lofi
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Post by lofi on Dec 24, 2016 6:21:30 GMT -5
Hello I've been doing a little work on my first turbine project, which is going to be an external combustion chamber using propane, as it seems to be the simplest build. No pump, fuel ring or evaporators to worry about designing the FT around. I'll see how I get on with that before launching in to liquid fuel. Anyway, like all the most interesting things in life, a bit of knowledge only leads to more questions... So: 1) Hole diameters. JetSpecs helpfully gives some defaults, but they don't vary with the inducer or derived FT size. Having read a load of threads, it seems that you can go too small or too large, even if the total area is correct. I assume this is relative to the FT size, so is there a calculable sweet spot, or is this an eyeball "that looks about right" affair? 2) Positioning. Obviously, there are three discreet zones. Is it as simple as putting the secondary holes half way along, and the primary and secondary at mid points between that and either end? 3) Pattern. From what I've seen, the trend seems to be for a zig-zag, diamond pattern, or at least some axial variation of the primary holes. Is there any rule of thumb for this? The inducer of the turbo I'm using is 71mm - I've attached a drawing of my current FT arrangement. CAD link is here (free account possibly required, but it works in the browser with no software required.). Thanks in advance! Ian And, of course: Merry Christmas!
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Post by racket on Dec 24, 2016 15:06:20 GMT -5
Hi Ian
Yep , that should be fine for propane .
With using kero/diesel the spray nozzle design can influence positioning and size/number of primary holes.
With your propane injector remember radial spray only, no axial , if possible a dozen <1.0 mm holes positioned axially so they spray to between the two rows of holes .
You'got a generously proportioned flametube so there shouldn't be any problems , a nice smooth transition piece between the flametube and scroll inlet will be all thats required .
If you run into overheating of the top cap you can add half a dozen holes right up at the top of the flametube to shoot cool air across the cap inner wall .
All the best , and a Merry Christmas , LOL............hope you got a good nights sleep , it was a bit dodgy here with the grandkids eager for the dawn to break ;-)
Cheers John
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lofi
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Post by lofi on Dec 24, 2016 21:33:21 GMT -5
Thanks John, for all your efforts in pointing people in the right direction! I'll post the full CAD mock up of my build before I order anything, but I'm pretty sure I've got a good handle on what I need to be making thanks to this forum. Small injection holes, radial only, and a nice smooth transition between the FT and scroll inlet all noted, and I'll experiment with what size of holes I can reliably make in a suitable piece of material for an injector. Thank you Christmas came early for me, as a T6 flange, gasket and DC motor to drive the oil pump arrived in the post today! I wasn't expecting them until the new year. Sleeping won't be difficult - a few generous drams of scotch have taken care of that! Hope you have a great time with the family, and feel refreshed after the break ready to tackle the 12/118 into submission. Sure I'm not alone in looking forward to more insights that come out of the project. All the best Ian
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