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Post by stoffe64 on Jan 9, 2023 19:49:52 GMT -5
Hello all,i found a holset a hx82,it has a 94mm compressor inducer, turbine exducer of 112mm but the turbine housing is size 25 in holset language,by pictures the housing look a bit tight but it is also a single scroll turbine housing....my worries is if it would be too tight,would the engine go to surge then?
Best regards/Stephan Höglund
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Post by racket on Jan 10, 2023 0:32:49 GMT -5
Hi Stephan
It should be OK , 25 (sq cm) = 2500 sq mms = 4 sq ins , I used 3000 sq mms as the NGV throat area of my engines using the 98 mm inducered TV94 comp wheel .
Cheers
John
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Post by turbinenjoe on Jan 10, 2023 0:57:12 GMT -5
Hi
if the PR between volute and turbine should be equal I get a throat area of 34.6 cm^2 when I calculate it with a mass flow of 1.1 kg/s. So in theory it is a bit small.
But in the real world it is wiser to stick to the words of the more experienced members like John.
Regards
Matthias
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Post by stoffe64 on Jan 10, 2023 5:02:00 GMT -5
I also found a hx82 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 41 housing
And a hx83 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 36 housing
And a hx82 with a 94mm compressor inducer, 100mm turbine exducer with a 37 housing with a single scroll T6
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Post by turbinenjoe on Jan 10, 2023 7:13:01 GMT -5
I also found a hx82 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 41 housing And a hx83 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 36 housing And a hx82 with a 94mm compressor inducer, 100mm turbine exducer with a 37 housing with a single scroll T6 Hello Stephan where did you find them and how much are they? I am only aware of one on ebay for around 1000 €. Regards Matthias |
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Post by stoffe64 on Jan 10, 2023 11:14:15 GMT -5
I simply Write in the searchfield on ebay for hx80,hx82,hx83 they Range up to 5000 usd,i try to find one in europe to avoid the customs taxes....which in Sweden is 25 percent of the total value with shipping to sweden!!
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Post by turbinenjoe on Jan 10, 2023 15:05:56 GMT -5
I also found a hx82 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 41 housing That one seems quite good. Sizes and ratios seem to fit. I already bought something from this seller in the past. He is located in Poland. My experiences with him are positive. Also this HX82 is relatively „cheap“. Sometimes I think that people living in the US or Australia are blessed with a larger offer of huge turbochargers without having to pay an equivalent to 1000€. As you already mentioned also a charger from far east or elsewhere outside Europe would end somewhere around that number after import taxes. Regards Matthias |
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Post by racket on Jan 10, 2023 15:24:37 GMT -5
Hi Matthias
LOL ............no large offering of huge turbos here in Oz , with our relatively small population compared to Europe or US, most of my bits are imported :-(
Cheers
John
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Post by stoffe64 on Jan 10, 2023 16:36:01 GMT -5
I also found a hx82 with 100mm compressor inducer and 110mm turbine exducer with a 41 housing That one seems quite good. Sizes and ratios seem to fit. I already bought something from this seller in the past. He is located in Poland. My experiences with him are positive. Also this HX82 is relatively „cheap“. Sometimes I think that people living in the US or Australia are blessed with a larger offer of huge turbochargers without having to pay an equivalent to 1000€. As you already mentioned also a charger from far east or elsewhere outside Europe would end somewhere around that number after import taxes. Regards Matthias Hello Matthias, yes i am looking in on that hx82 also,it is indeed in europe, and it is relatively cheap,the thing that get me worried about that one is the deformation of the compressor inlet,two dents or deformation where that lockring sits, i am worried that housing could be cracked further down in the housing...this turbo was maybe dropped!? |
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Post by stoffe64 on Jan 10, 2023 16:39:04 GMT -5
Hi Matthias LOL ............no large offering of huge turbos here in Oz , with our relatively small population compared to Europe or US, most of my bits are imported :-( Cheers John John,i saw on ebay a holset hx82, 2800 dollars for it! In australia!! |
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Post by racket on Jan 10, 2023 17:24:43 GMT -5
Hi Stephan
Thats a rarity , good price though , bit unit :-)
Cheers
John
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Post by pitciblackscotland on Jan 10, 2023 18:38:14 GMT -5
There are a couple of them for sale in Oz like this one www.ebay.com.au/itm/255126188654 Bloody hell the weight is 60 kgs that weight more than the T30 turbo i have. |
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Post by racket on Jan 10, 2023 19:40:18 GMT -5
Hi Mark
The 60 kg one is probably a water cooled turb scroll , also the HX83 is high pressure unit , one heavy turbo :-(
Hope you had a good Christmas :-)
Cheers
John
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Post by turbinenjoe on Jan 10, 2023 23:57:34 GMT -5
That one seems quite good. Sizes and ratios seem to fit. I already bought something from this seller in the past. He is located in Poland. My experiences with him are positive. Also this HX82 is relatively „cheap“. Sometimes I think that people living in the US or Australia are blessed with a larger offer of huge turbochargers without having to pay an equivalent to 1000€. As you already mentioned also a charger from far east or elsewhere outside Europe would end somewhere around that number after import taxes. Regards Matthias Hello Matthias, yes i am looking in on that hx82 also,it is indeed in europe, and it is relatively cheap,the thing that get me worried about that one is the deformation of the compressor inlet,two dents or deformation where that lockring sits, i am worried that housing could be cracked further down in the housing...this turbo was maybe dropped!? Hello Stephan, unfortunately it is to far to go there and have a closer look at it for you. I am located too far in the south of Germany. But maybe another member lives closer to Chobienice which is pretty close behind the Polish border? Regards Matthias |
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Post by pitciblackscotland on Jan 11, 2023 1:11:18 GMT -5
Hi Mark The 60 kg one is probably a water cooled turb scroll , also the HX83 is high pressure unit , one heavy turbo :-( Hope you had a good Christmas :-) Cheers John Hi John, Ah i see the other 2 are 47 kgs same weight as the T30 maybe not as big in size  Yeah Christmas was good glad that year is over my father was ill for a while so had to help out a lot more that i usually do. but he OK for now, so hopefully will have more time in the workshop this year  Mark. |
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Yeah Christmas was good glad that year is over my father was ill for a while so had to help out a lot more that i usually do. but he OK for now, so hopefully will have more time in the workshop this year 