eira
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Post by eira on Jan 15, 2014 0:07:49 GMT -5
Hi all, my name is Eira, new member. I want to built a "mini turbojet" referring to Olympus AMT Netherland. Does anyone know what is dimension of Olympus combustion chamber (inner diameter x outer diameter x length) ?
thankl you very much.
Regards, Eira
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Post by racket on Jan 15, 2014 2:54:26 GMT -5
Hi Eira
The actual size of your flametube can be whatever you like if building your own design .
Are you using Olympus parts..........compressor /turbine/shaft ??
The Olympus OD is 131mm so the ID will be say 130mm ,as a rough guess , flametube probably 110-115mm OD , length could be anywhere between 80 and 100mm long, ID probably ~35mm or whatever size is required so as to provide a flametube cross sectional area of ~3 times compressor inducer area .
Cheers John
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Post by eira on Jan 15, 2014 3:25:10 GMT -5
Hi John, yes, I use: shaft, turbine, compressor, and NGV of Olympus. Thank you very much for your information.
Regards, Eira
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Post by eira on Jan 16, 2014 17:40:00 GMT -5
Hi all, how about dimension tolerance of turbojet parts so that the parts fabrication not so expensive but meet precision requirement?
thank you very much.
regards, eira
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Post by racket on Jan 16, 2014 20:16:30 GMT -5
Hi Eira
The various components will have differing tolerance requirements , its too broad a field to be able to provide a simple answer .
Your Schrekling book would give a rough guide to requirements
Cheers John
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Post by eira on Jan 16, 2014 21:38:21 GMT -5
Hi John, is it correct for: 1. rotor shaft: diametral tolerance +0.01 mm / - 0 mm 2. compressor wheel to compressor casing gap: 1 mm 3. bearing inner race to shaft : press fit 4. bearing outer race to shaft housing: press fit 5. turbine blade tip to turbine casing: 0.5 mm 6. turbine casing inner diameter tolerance: +0.01 mm/ - 0 mm 7. casing inner diamter tolerance: +0.01 mm/ - 0 mm
Thank you very much. Regards, Eira
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Post by racket on Jan 17, 2014 3:25:43 GMT -5
Hi Eira
Tolerances will be dependent on a number of factors , I can't provide an answer to your questions, its far too complex .
As for comp wheel to housing clearances ........1.0 mm is far too great , something closer to 0.1mm for a small engine would be more appropriate ,I use ~0.3mm for my larger engines between comp wheel and front cover shroud .
Unless you have a good grasp of general engineering requirements , I'd suggest you copy a design where all the tolerances have been worked out for you as the engines very survival depends on it being constructed correctly down to the last detail .
If you obtain a copy of Thomas Kamps book Model Gas Turbines , it has scaling data in it to help you "design" your own engine relative to his design in the book .
Cheers John
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Post by eira on Jan 17, 2014 17:19:59 GMT -5
Thank you very much John.
regards, Eira
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Post by racket on Mar 2, 2014 16:50:57 GMT -5
Hi Eira
Maybe shift your last Email to this Thread .
Cheers John
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Post by racket on Mar 2, 2014 17:39:26 GMT -5
Hi Eira Have you considered joining the GTBA..... www.gtba.co.uk/ they have a lot more expertise with smaller micro engines, I feel it would be well worth the modest cost involved to obtain the best advice, especially when it comes to setting up the bearings, preload sand lubrication , if there are any shortcomings with these critical components you'll very quickly wreck your engine . Cheers John
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