jamiep
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Post by jamiep on Jul 12, 2011 10:59:59 GMT -5
regarding bypassing some of the gas to the turbine... it seems the smart place for me to do it would be to use the bypass hole that is built into the turbo and put a valve on it (this is at the turbine wheel).
My thoughts are that the compressor would still be able to supply plenty of dillution air to the combustor.
Thoughts on that? Basically, I am trying to trick my turbine section into thinking there is less flow to the wheel, reducing surge.
I still plan to monkey with the flame tube.
Jamie
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Post by racket on Jul 12, 2011 16:25:50 GMT -5
Hi Jamie
You could regulate the inbuilt wastegate , but keep in mind the temps will spike rapidly with any bleeding off of gases , so gently gently with the amount of wastegate movement , you might find that it'll barely need cracking off its seating .
Cheers John
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Post by wolfdragon on Jul 12, 2011 19:10:38 GMT -5
perhaps the small brass needle valve you can get at lowes or home depot in the plumbing fitting area would be a good place to start?
smaller seating area than a wastegate would be...
I know the ones at lowes are solid brass, so no soft sealing bits to worry about melting:
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Post by racket on Jul 12, 2011 22:22:14 GMT -5
Hi Wolf
I'd have to agree with you that its probably easier and safer to simply bleed off relatively cool P2 air than combustion gases , the "positive" with bleeding combustion gases would be extra thrust if the "more energetic" gases were plumbed into the jetpipe rather than P2 air , but for this early stage of experimentation I'd be going for P2 air simply for safety reasons , it'd also be much easier operating a simple valve fitted to the side wall of the combustor , than the wastegate .
Cheers John
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Post by jamiep on Jul 13, 2011 12:18:03 GMT -5
Chris - as for afterburners, I am in the process of building mine. I am using 4" stainless that comes to a 2.25 outlet. I saw your plan you posted. I have already cut a flame holder ring out of steel. Do you find the little steel cone a necessity?
Jamie
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Post by jamiep on Jul 18, 2011 11:14:39 GMT -5
I am in search of a cheap 12 volt inline fuel pump... anyone got a source?
jamie
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Post by wolfdragon on Jul 18, 2011 21:22:38 GMT -5
I would start at summitracing jets or speedway, all are hot rod sites, I know summit has their bargain brand which isn't bad, I imagine the other two have something similar.
I personally use summitracing, they have a good filtering system so it's easy to figure out what part you really want
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Post by ernie wrenn on Jul 19, 2011 8:30:01 GMT -5
What pressure and volume?
Ernie
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 10:56:11 GMT -5
As for pressure, Chris said he was able to run as low as 10-20psi on the afterburner. As for volume, he mentioned running a .060 - .090 jet aimed at the fan.
I will probably use this setup and if I need more fuel, keep drilling out the jet.
jamie
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 10:58:48 GMT -5
The cheapest electric fuel pump I see on summit is like $60 I would love to find something around $20 jamie
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 14:09:48 GMT -5
Pipe has spark plug bung that will weld in... Jamie Attachments:
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 14:15:33 GMT -5
The core of the afterburner. Manifold has a temp probe fitting. Steps up, then has a flame holder circle, then another flame holder at end.
Jamie
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 14:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by jamiep on Jul 19, 2011 14:16:58 GMT -5
assembly before welding. Jamie Attachments:
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Post by ernie wrenn on Jul 19, 2011 14:32:49 GMT -5
I have some pumps we use for the motorcycle kits 10/15 psi no problem.. Your cost is $25 ea + fgt. That is my cost. Ernie www.compucarnitrous.com
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